Stygian Overlord: slight benefit to vassals in your domain

[Klapaucius]

I feel like there should be a particular benefit to being vassaled to an Overlord. My suggestion is something quite small. My thoughts are:

- 1 soak, 2 defence, 2 accuracy (1/5 of the LoD bonus); or
- +1 to desecration rolls on kills within the domain; or
- Thorough desecration in the domain

Obviously I can see that this is relatively niche and not very impactful so feel free to ignore this completely if it seems like too much of a pain

(What I really really want is to allocate tiles to vassals, and they get the full Lord over domain bonus on that tile only, but that might be overly complex for the intended scope of the feature)

[Goliath]

Obviously I can see that this is relatively niche and not very impactful so feel free to ignore this completely if it seems like too much of a pain

Really cool change, but bringing this up to show it's less niche than it seems

Stygian Presence (Dark Priesthood)
[...]
A Stygian Overlord who uses this ability will be specifically imposing their infernal realm upon the area and will possess power in accordance with their rulership.

[Klapaucius]

Good point. It's pretty expensive to run that skill, but probably realistic to have it up for the duration of most raids if you're an Overlord with 15 vassals, provided you/other DOs aren't using up the ticks yourselves.

Edit: partly, niche in the sense that there's a strictly quite limited number of overlords so the number of people who are actually affected by this, like all the other prestige/end game content is relatively small.

[Kandarin]

(What I really really want is to allocate tiles to vassals, and they get the full Lord over domain bonus on that tile only, but that might be overly complex for the intended scope of the feature)

There's a kernel of an idea here, let me see if I can develop it out further:
- Overlords can spend a point of Dark Power to grant a tile in their domain to a Vassal in Fiefdom.
- The number of Fiefdom tiles that can be granted to a given Vassal is limited (possibly just one).
- Any given tile may be assigned as the Fiefdom of one Vassal only. Demons can trade and lend, but they don't share.
- Vassals get full Lord Over Domain bonuses on their Fiefdom as the Overlord is lending a fraction of their power. Dark Oppressor Vassals get (partial?) Legion Master bonuses on their Fiefdom.
- Attacking the Overlord forfeits Fiefdom as the demon prince yanks back the power they granted.
- Overlords get Thorough Desecration for kills and Desecrations performed on tiles granted in Fiefdom, calling on the power of their subordinates to enhance their sacrifices.
- If an Overlord loses their position by any means (spending too much time outside their domain, ceasing to be Evil, idling, getting overthrown) all Fiefdoms associated with that Overlord end. Vassals who lost their Fiefdoms get a notification of what happened - your liege is no longer in power over a region of Stygia and can no longer hand out lands.

It is true that this is a very niche mechanic since only six characters get to be Overlords - at least, until I get to code the ability be an Overlord of a Valhalla neighborhood if it's overwhelmingly infused to Evil, and even that might not raise the cap by much. However, up to 90 characters can be Vassals to an Overlord, which is a pretty substantial proportion of Team Evil.

[Skouth]

Yessss
Give me CK2 in nexus clash now

[Klapaucius]

There's a kernel of an idea here, let me see if I can develop it out further:

I was thinking the vassal gets the bonus in on the tile, while the DO loses it, so fairly much as described.

Make the DO meet the vassal on the tile to provide the title.

Don't let them trade tiles, you gave them that one for a reason.

So good! This version doesn't have as many flow on raiding effects, which is nice. The only thing that might be worth considering is planting a SH on top of someone's fiefdom, giving the lich/other DO/tank extra defensive stats at home.

... Though I feel like the interactions I have with people will only trend further into the used car salesman/dodgy real estate agent paradigm if this happens.

[Kandarin]

Yessss
Give me CK2 in nexus clash now

You have concisely grasped the point of Overlords.

[SaltedSalmon]

Its a cute idea but I am missing the point of it.
Why would you stay in your fiefdom tile? Are you a petmaster who's ganking people who enter there?

[Goliath]

Its a cute idea but I am missing the point of it.
Why would you stay in your fiefdom tile? Are you a petmaster who's ganking people who enter there?

The fiefdom coukd be a library or other resource point, ot simply a place to hunt for roaming imps.

[Klapaucius]

I wouldn't necessarily think you'd always want to be staying there, but in the feral paradigm having a tile that gives you a significant defensive buff is quite desirable for holing up. And, when you do find someone in your fiefdom, killing them would be a nice bonus. The satisfaction when the hellhound pack *finally* visits your fiefdom would be glorious.

The main purpose is to get the vassals invested in the lore/conquest side of the Overlord feature.